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Subject: Re: Best Mailing List Software For A Host Startup
From: Eric Thomas <ERIC @ VM . SE . LSOFT . COM>
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 15:10:04 +0100
To: List-Managers @ GreatCircle . COM
In-reply-to: Message of Wed, 30 Oct 1996 17:03:29 -0500 (EST) from list-managers-owner@GreatCircle.COM

On   Wed,   30  Oct   1996   17:03:29   -0500  (EST)   Michelle   Murrain
<mpmNS@hamp.hampshire.edu> said:

>(I heard about "listserv lite" which is a freeware version of listserv?)

"LISTSERV Lite" is a new product that will be released soon (we just want
to release LISTSERV  1.8c first - I'm writing the  release notes now). It
is basically  a subset of  LISTSERV, which  will be renamed  to "LISTSERV
Classic" when the new product is  launched. LISTSERV Lite is much cheaper
and is targeted at sites which  have gotten connected recently and really
have no  idea what this  mailing list stuff  is, since the  press doesn't
talk about it much it can't be very useful, but you never know. The least
you could say is that they wouldn't  know what to do with LISTSERV's full
functionality; they're  the kind of  customers who  call to ask  how much
data you can  store in 1M of disk space  (literally) :-) Similarly, there
are  thousands of  smaller organizations  that just  don't need  the full
functionality of LISTSERV and are reluctant to pay for it.

"LISTSERV Lite Free  Edition" is a free version of  LISTSERV Lite that is
limited to 10 lists of up to 500 subscribers each. It may not be used for
commercial  purposes or  resold/bundled in  commercial applications,  but
otherwise it doesn't  cost anything and the license won't  expire. To run
more lists,  you can  install multiple copies  on multiple  machines. The
assumption is  that this will give  people a "soft" incentive  to buy the
commercial version  once they've got  4-5 machines  to look after  when 1
would be enough. Organizations that positively  don't have a buck (and in
particular  universities   in  third  world  countries)   can  just  keep
installing more copies  and we won't mind. What would  upset us though is
if someone used  the Free Edition to make money,  either directly or more
cleverly. Especially  spammers (it's  one of  the reasons  we have  a 500
subscriber restriction).  It took  a long, long  fight with  marketing to
make the Free Edition happen, and it was all centered on whether we could
prevent commercial usage (and *ensure* no usage by spammers). I can't say
that  *all* our  marketing folks  are fully  convinced, but  personally I
don't doubt that such abuse will be self-policing, ie if someone tries to
use the Free  Edition to make a  quick buck, the users will  get so upset
that the perpetrator will think twice  about trying it again :-) The Free
Edition adds  a blurb to welcome  messages (NOT to list  postings) to say
that it is  a free copy not  to be used for commercial  purposes, and the
logo used  on the web archive  interface also says "Free  Edition" in red
letters and links to the usage policy. Hopefully this should be enough to
make users aware that this is not  paid for and they should refuse to pay
for  any service  provided through  this  license, and  engage the  flame
thrower instead :-)

Currently you  can download a  preview of the  Free Edition from  our web
site, although it's well  hidden. The idea was to get  a trickle of users
and see if there are any problems. The  code is the same, in fact you can
upgrade to the commercial version or to LISTSERV Classic just by swapping
license keys, but the packaging is different, so we wanted to be careful.
The  only  complaints  were  that  people had  to  download  the  manuals
separately, which is  because it is a  pain in the butt to  make a decent
ASCII version from  a text processor, so  we will only do  this once when
"closing" 1.8c. For  now, this comes with the 1.8b  manuals, which indeed
are outdated. Anyway, the URL is:

                 http://www.lsoft.com/listserv-lite.html

This has info  about the differences between Lite and  Classic, and links
to the preview download area. Not all unixes are included in the preview,
and neither  is Win95,  but this will  all be added  when the  product is
released. The manuals are on FTP.LSOFT.COM, cd LISTSERV/Beta-1.8c.

  Eric

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