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Subject: Re: LSOFT's Listserv vs. LYRIS
From: Paul Graham <pjg @ urth . acsu . buffalo . edu>
Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 00:06:09 -0500
To: James Cook <jcook @ netcom . com>
Cc: list-managers @ GreatCircle . COM
References: <Pine.3.89.9611251452.A8972-0100000@netcom>

we use the latest version of listserv (1.8c-hpo ``beta'').
there really is no comparison to majordomo (speaking as a former
majordomo admin) or any other free software.  i suspect there isn't
much comparison to listproc.  you can check the lsoft top 20 list
<http://www.lsoft.com/ltop/ltop-main.html> for performance numbers.

listserv has no clever web interface for management and it could probably
use one (for consistency and error checking) but there are advantages to a
mail interface.  listserv is also a single-threaded monolithic program.
the single executable does everything including web based archive
management (catalist <http://www.lsoft.com/lists/listref.html>).  it's my
opinion that lsoft has some preference for open-vms and its cousin nt.

a number of listserv site comprise the so-called listserv backbone.  these
sites share information in real-time about lists, subscribers, spamming
and co-operate in delivery.

i have no experience with lyris but i find the claims on their web pages
a bit hard to believe.

disclaimer:
i'm at the university at buffalo and we have a long relationship with
lsoft.  our primary listserv node is number two for deliveries on the
backbone (about .5M/day) and i don't think we could do the work with
anything other than listserv.  however we don't completely hew to the
party line since we use qmail (and until resently sendmail) as our smtp
transport rather than lsoft's lsmtp.

-------- In reply to:
Lsoft (www.lsoft.com) and Lyris (www.lyris.com) both appear to offer 
enhanced features over Majordomo and Listproc.
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 paul
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