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Subject: Re: LSOFT's Listserv vs. LYRIS
From: Eric Thomas <ERIC @ VM . SE . LSOFT . COM>
Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 09:18:21 +0100
To: Paul Graham <pjg @ urth . acsu . buffalo . edu>, list-managers-owner @ GreatCircle . COM, Merrill Cook <mcook @ ecunet . org>
Cc: tower @ albert . gnu . ai . mit . edu, list-managers @ greatcircle . com
In-reply-to: Message of Tue, 26 Nov 1996 19:58:55 -0500 (EST) from list-managers-owner@GreatCircle.COM

On Tue, 26 Nov 1996  19:58:55 -0500 (EST) Merrill Cook <mcook@ecunet.org>
said:

>The pricing  I've seen suggests that  they want to make  money selling a
>few copies.  If they wanted  to sell lots  they wouldn't be  charging so
>much.

LISTSERV Lite goes for $500-2000 OTC (corporate), with a free edition for
non commercial use.

It isn't possible to sell "lots" of  copies of a mailing list manager, at
least not in the meaning normally  associated with PC software. There are
thousands of copies of the freebies in use, not millions, not hundreds of
thousands, not  even tens  of thousands.  That's with  a retail  price of
$0.00. I think this  will change, but it hasn't changed  yet, and we have
bills to pay  now. Another thing is  that supporting the high  end of the
market  is  extremely  expensive  (that's another  reason  for  the  Lite
version). It's  easy to write a  simple list manager and  write some hype
that refers  to existing  products as  "primitive", then  make a  spam or
three to advertise it, and the sad  thing is that you'll fool the low end
of the market  easily, because they just don't know  better. But when you
talk to sites that have lists with over 500,000 subscribers, plan to have
millions of  subscribers on the same  machine and need delivery  times in
the 200,000 per  hour, including bounce processing and,  needless to say,
without any  failure or lost  mail, suddenly everything starts  getting a
lot more difficult and lining buzzwords on  a web page no longer cuts it.
The market for this is in the hundreds, not even thousands, so the prices
have to go up.

  Eric


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