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Subject: www.findmail.com
From: Brewster Kahle <brewster @ archive . org>
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 17:26:14 -0800
To: kynn @ mail . idyllmtn . com
Cc: list-managers @ GreatCircle . COM


Hi,  My name is Brewster Kahle.  I work at the Internet Archive, and I just
wanted to clarify what we are doing.

(I am on this list in digested form, so I cant see realtime what is happening)

The Internet Archive is archiving the public information on the net.  We
think it is important to make a record of this historically interesting
transformation.  We have already found researchers interested in the data,
and we think useful services will grow out of the data as well.

As we crawl the web, we are obeying the robot.txt file and other "keep out"
signs.

We are not collecting mailing lists.  There are a couple of groups that we
know of that are.  We have asked both to make donations of the data they
collect.  Since in many cases the data is not meant for the limited
audience of the mailing list participants, we are not sure what we should
do with the data when we get it other than just store it for historical and
scholarly study.  

I posted a draft RFC to this list a month or so ago that would signal that
a posting should not be archived by putting a "restrict:
no-external-archive" line in the mail header.  This was not meant to be a
license for people to archive all that does not have that header, but to
indicate that the poster does not want it to happen.  This parallels the
"x-no-archive: yes" netnews header of deja-news.

If anyone is interested in this topic, please write directly or back to
this list.  We have a list about some of the topics of archiving called
archivists@archive.org.  Please participate!

-brewster

>>Date: Tue, 3 Dec 1996 18:38:58 -0800
>>To: casio-keyboarders-approval
>>From: Majordomo
>>Subject: SUBSCRIBE casio-keyboarders
>>Reply-To: Majordomo

>>ListSaver-of-casio-keyboarders@vault.findmail.com has been added to
>casio-keyboarders.

www.findmail.com offers no information on these people, besides an
email address to mail.  Their primary DNS is provided by archive.org,
according to Whois.  www.archive.org speaks of archiving "the web",
Usenet, and other "public information" but doesn't mention mailing
lists.



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