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Subject: Re: www.findmail.com
From: Eric Thomas <ERIC @ VM . SE . LSOFT . COM>
Date: Sat, 14 Dec 1996 03:13:34 +0100
To: kynn @ mail . idyllmtn . com, list-managers-owner @ GreatCircle . COM, Brewster Kahle <brewster @ archive . org>
Cc: list-managers @ GreatCircle . COM
In-reply-to: Message of Fri, 13 Dec 1996 17:26:14 -0800 from list-managers-owner@GreatCircle.COM

On Fri, 13 Dec 1996  17:26:14 -0800 Brewster Kahle <brewster@archive.org>
said:

>The Internet Archive is archiving the  public information on the net. We
>think it is important to make  a record of this historically interesting
>transformation.  We have  already  found researchers  interested in  the
>data, and we think useful services will grow out of the data as well.

You know, we list  owners hear a lot of tales  of pristine altruism. What
we actually want to  know, though, is whether you are  planning to make a
profit from our data  or not. If the answer is yes, most  of us think you
should ask for  permission in advance. You see, you  are operating on the
legal  premise that  anyone  is  free to  subscribe  to  these lists  and
consequently you are free  to do so, and keep a copy  of all the messages
you ever received,  and this is all fine  as long as this is  just a mega
database on your  workstation for your own personal use.  But you're also
planning to make money from this work, which isn't yours. It isn't in the
public  domain,  you don't  own  the  copyright,  and you're  making  the
assumption that the implicit license  that exists when you subscribe also
allows you to make  money from the work. Let's just say  that's at best a
controversial  point  in law  and  many  list  owners certainly  feel  it
shouldn't  be allowed.  You may  just end  up having  your company  black
listed on large servers.

  Eric


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