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Subject: Re: findmail.com
From: "Joshua D. Baer" <josh @ skyweyr . com>
Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 09:07:14 -0500
To: List-Managers @ GreatCircle . COM
In-reply-to: <199612310900.BAA15261@miles.greatcircle.com>

Pardon the quotes from multiple messages... I hope to be saving bandwidth...

> Which does not imply that anyone who feels like it is free to
>redistribute the
> contents of that forum.  If you think otherwise, please point us to the
> relevant copyright law.

Maybe my understanding of findmail.com is incorrect, but I saw them as
something like DejaNews.

Are they like DejaNews?  A publicly accessible search engine?

> >Those who ultimately will decide these issues use predecessors,
> >precedents.  What would be the forerunner for the notion that anything
> >you write to a `public forum' may be freely copied?

Are they selling the content, or making it freely available?

> Think of building a cd-rom archive of Time Magazine articles. Think how
> quickly Time would own your car and computer....

Except that I wouldn't think of Time magazine as a public forum, since it
doesn't accept (regularly) contributions from all of the readers.

> To use Usenet as an example, when you post an article, you set in
> motion a very large chain of automatic events which result in copying
> of your (implicitly copyrighted) work.  Historically and currently,
> this has consisted of copies on news servers (the normal case),
> news-to-mail gateways, magnetic-tape-based feeds, news-to-Web
> gateways, online and offline private archives, online public archives
> (e.g., DejaNews), archival media (e.g., CD-ROMs) and distribution by
> printed copy.  All of these are (or have been) normal ways of
> distributing netnews articles.

I'm not saying _all_ mailing lists are public forums, but some are designed
as such, including most of the lists I run.  Some obviously aren't.  For
example, a mailing list which distributes a monthly newsletter on cooking
would obviously be copywrighted and protected.  While anyone can subscribe
and the information is freely available, it's clearly not a public forum.
Then look at this list... when I post it I don't know exactly who is
reading it and I don't care... it's my contribution to the forum.

I don't think someone can resell this content.  However, if I contribute it
freely to a public forum, I do it understanding that it may end up on
search engines and archives.

~Josh


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