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Subject: Re: fresh horror from AOL
From: Eric Thomas <ERIC @ VM . SE . LSOFT . COM>
Date: Sun, 2 Feb 1997 23:49:53 +0100
To: List Managers <list-managers @ GreatCircle . com>
In-reply-to: Message of Sun, 2 Feb 1997 17:22:05 -0500 from Brad Knowles <brad@his.com>

On Sun, 2 Feb 1997 17:22:05 -0500 Brad Knowles <brad@his.com> said:

>        If you  now want to  see if they're  over a certain  quantity of
>mail, measured in bytes, instead of just slicing through the mailbox and
>counting how long it takes you to get  to the end, you now have to store
>message  size  along  with  the  pointer to  the  message,  and  run  an
>accumulated total  as you're  walking down that  tree. It  doesn't sound
>like much, but do it tens of millions of times a day, and you'll quickly
>accumulate a lot more CPU time than you thought possible.

This is  an implementation  problem that  can be solved  in all  sorts of
ways, such as maintaining a "total  size of mailbox" field in the mailbox
header or whatever makes sense given your existing implementation. As one
of my former bosses  used to say when I explained  that his latest bright
idea wasn't going to work, "Stop! I  don't want to hear any of that. This
stuff is your job, not mine. My job  is to decide if we can afford it, so
just tell me who would have to work  on it for how long and what hardware
we would need to buy, and I'll give you an answer".

>        We'd probably have  to add several dozen more  terabytes of disk
>storage (because the average mailbox size would grow *dramatically*),

That's a valid argument, but you can charge extra for the service, or you
can contain  the growth by adding  a higher per-message cap.  To tell you
the truth, I think most people  would be happy with 1000-1500 total. It's
just that if you divide 500 by the number of days in a long weekend, it's
less than what most active lists produce a day. People then lose personal
mail and get upset.

  Eric


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