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Subject: A list-abuse mailing list?
From: "John Buckman" <jbuckman @ shelby . com>
Organization: Walter Shelby Group Ltd.
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 10:02:45 +7
To: list-managers @ GreatCircle . COM
Cc: chuq @ apple . com, A . Verbraeck @ duticai . TWI . TUDelft . NL
Comments: Authenticated sender is <jbuckman@synergy>
In-reply-to: <199703240733.IAA10956@duticai.twi.tudelft.nl>

> My lists are always under heavy attack from dozens of places (both by spam 
> and by bogus subscriptions, or by mailbombing existing, unknowing users).

It seems to me that it would make sense for list managers to band
together and develop techniques for fighting mailing list attacks. 
This type of problem is becoming more common, and list owners could
well benefit from an orchestrated effort at trying to stamp this
stuff out.  

For instance, it should be possible to come up with a reasonable
standard for identifying list-enabled mail bombs (where someone gets
subscribed to hundreds of lists), defining an algorithm that could
be added to existing mailing list software, sharing the 
information so that list admins can protect their site, and creating 
a method for a "victims" to undo the damage.  

To this end, I propose creating a mailing list for discussing
"mailing list abuse" and coming up with ways to prevent it.  If
there is interest in this topic from other list admins, I'd be glad
to host the list. This would be a vendor-neutral forum, where anyone 
using any list server software would be welcome.

The immediate goal of such a list would be to alert other list
admins of list abuse in progress, and help each other stop it.  The
eventual goal would be to write up an RFC on this topic, and to 
create a small library of procedures and source code which help list 
admins fight back.

My apologies if such a list already exists -- I am not aware of one.

John

John Buckman <jbuckman@shelby.com>
Shelby Group Ltd., http://www.shelby.com/
Developers of Lyris Email List Server


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