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Subject: Re: list protection
From: matt @ netmeg . net (Matt Magri)
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 97 14:01 EST
To: list-managers @ GreatCircle . COM
In-reply-to: <ri4tdw2iu9.fsf@urth.acsu.buffalo.edu>

Michelle Dick <artemis@rahul.net> wrote:
> Actually, I think that the more lists Dan runs, the better.  After
> he's had 5+ years of running several lists with memberships in the
> thousands and tens of thousands, his viewpoint may change.  Of course,
> this assumes he cares about S/N ratio of the lists as well as his
> time.

pjg@acsu.buffalo.edu wrote:
> if you expect his viewpoint to change i don't think you understand it.
> it's often the case that people have a presentation style that puts some
> folks off.  discarding informed insights because you find the package
> unappealing doesn't serve your self-interest.  of course this assumes that
> you care about making things better as well as your time.

The problem with this formulation is that it ignores the nature of the
relationship between someone who has a package they would like people
to use, and the people he would like to have use it. It's all well and
good to put the blame on Michelle Dick, but she's not the one trying to
get a message across. When the message doesn't make it that's as much a
problem for the sender as the receiver, regardless of who's 'to blame.'
If you think Dan Bernstein has "a presentation style that puts some
folks off" then maybe you should be sending him e-mail with some
suggestions on how to avoid such pitfalls. <you can insert a variation
of the "of course this assumes that you care about..." line here.>

Michelle, Chuq, etc. are giving him very valuable feedback on his
delivery. Don't shoot the messenger.

Matt


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